Weekly, Percentage Based, and Unlimited Savings Goals
Introduction
Currently the savings goal functionality seems very basic, and I'm struggling to create a goal that will accurately reflect what I'm doing or wanting to do. The lack of flexibility makes getting started a little more difficult than it needs to be. I've grouped these three ideas together because they're all related and can be combined together as way to better support long, short, and sometimes poorly defined goals. It's not always necessary that the goal be completely specified, as in a total goal amount. Sometimes, just setting aside money on a schedule or as available is a great way to start making progress.
Weekly Savings Goals
I am paid weekly, and I like to contribute to my Roth IRA weekly on a specific day (not payday). Because of how the weekdays overlay months, some months I get paid and contribute more than others, but the only option I have in Simplifi is to keep the amount the same each month. I know I could make a repeating transaction that is weekly, but that doesn't match up with the goal amount which would fluctuate on a monthly budget. Ideally, I'd be able to say, I want to save/invest $X every Tuesday or something like that, so the amount is dynamic based on the contribution schedule.
Percentage Based Savings Goals
I noticed when I was looking into setting up a 401k that the contribution amounts deducted from each paycheck had to be a percentage (pre or post tax). This makes me wonder how Simplifi could better support long term goals that may not have a specific target amount in mind. One way to allow more flexibility would be to set a goal contribution based on income or paycheck amount—this would be very helpful for a wide range of people that do not have complete consistency in their income month to month or have multiple income streams (as the percentage could be based on the income bucket as a whole).
The feature here could look something like:
- I want to save X% of my income each month / week
- I want to save X% of each paycheck (This ties nicely into the recurring income transactions that are forecasted and recorded automatically when received)
Unlimited Savings Goals
One of the biggest reasons I'm struggling to use the existing savings goal functionality to plan for a retirement goal is that sometimes the goal amount doesn't matter or is unknown. Right now I am experimenting by creating a 2024 Roth IRA Contribution goal. This is a good example of a well defined, short term retirement goal—hit the contribution limit during the calendar (or tax) year, but everything is not so cut and dry.
Franky, I don't know how much money I need to retire because I don't know what I want my retirement to look like. I don't know when, where, or how, but I do know that there is some general guidance around retirement, such as investing 10% of one's income, which is a perfectly valid goal. It would be nice if it were calculated dynamically with the same flexibility above, but I can see a simpler method would be making recurring savings goals. For example, say I want to save $X or X% each month, just like a spending goal, I could save toward a goal, have those transactions attributed automatically, and not have to set up the goal in my budget every month.
Closing
Thanks for the read! I'm open to suggestions and am not trying to prescribe the implementation. Hopefully my user goals and struggles were clear, but let me know if you have and follow up questions or suggestions for how to use what is available today.
Comments
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Update on Recurring Goals
Somehow I missed that you can turn of the target date, which would allow for contributing a set amount to a goal each month, but that still requires the goal amount to be set. It would be nice if there were a way to check a box or something to say this is an ongoing savings goal without a specific amount in mind.
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Hi @JMoney
Great suggestions. You may be asked to break these up into individual feature requests…
- Weekly Savings Goals
- Percentage Based Savings Goals
- Unlimited Savings Goals (This third recommendation is similar if not equivalent to this existing Savings Goals feature request
There have been and continue to be a lot of conversation and suggestions to improve/enhance the SG feature. This community post in the FAQ category will give you more info on what is currently being suggested/requested.
I will admit that the current SG set up is basic. But it's basicness is in keeping with Quicken Simplifi's original premise of being a simplified personal budgeting/planning app. That being said, there has been a lot of features added and/or enhanced since QS first launched and the Savings Goals feature is one that many would like to see enhanced.
Danny
Simplifi user since 01/22
”Budget: a mathematical confirmation of your suspicions.” ~A.A. Latimer0 -
Thanks @DannyB,
I can try and split them out when I get a second.
Yeah, I think the request you mentioned is essentially the same.
I still need to schedule my first coaching session. Maybe I'm not looking at things the right way. Really, I just need a way to account for retirement / investing money in my spending plan, which maybe I could do under transfers with some recurring logic? That could be a valid workaround for now.
Maybe on the Spending Plan page, on the left, instead of:- Income after bills & savings
- Planned spending
- Other spending
It could be:
- Income after bills & payments (Taking care of financial obligations)
- Financial goals (Wealth building)
- Planned spending (Spending intentionally)
- Other spending (Upstanding how to do better)
The financial goals tab could look and function quite similarly to the planned spending tab, with the ability to manage all types of goals that are not expenses but are important to deduct before getting to planned spending.
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Oh, hey, this seems to work pretty well! I had no luck with transfers, but creating a weekly bill series seems to be 80% of what I was wanting to track.
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@JMoney, thanks for posting your suggestions to the Community!
I went ahead and moved this out of Feature Requests, as you want to outline and request just one suggestion per Idea post in accordance with our guidelines here. With that, however, we do have some existing requests that cover some of what you mentioned, as well as some additional requests you may be interested in:
I hope this helps!
-Coach Natalie
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Thanks! I liked and commented on all of those threads.
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